Good for her! Too bad more of those vicious creeps don't meet the same fate.

And what would have happened if the gun control idiots had been able to take away this
womans means of protection !!!

"Good for Her", she did what she needed to survive. Keep the guns and keep them loaded where you can get to them. Maybe the next creep that tries something like this will think twice...

Too bad she didn't grab both guns. Then he wouldn't have made it out the door......but then, she would have a bigger mess to clean up. Good for her!!!!

awesome hope she feels no regret about taking a LOW LIFE

The lady did the right thing! She was assulted by an armed {the knife} criminal who invaded her home. her life was in danger and she reacted correctly in neutralizing the threat. I hope she gets past the trama soon and somehow can put this all behind her.

right on!! i keep a gun loaded & ready in my nightstand too! i'll echo the others,...u r my hero~~~

Awesome. You just saved the tax payers, the courts and the penal system a lot of time and money by dealing with this the proper way. If all homes had guns the criminals would be too scared to pull something like this.

Get a bigger gun!!

Wonderful.. Sorry it had to be you ma'am, to shoot this piece of "you know what", but more and more women need to have a pistol loaded and ready to shoot. It is a valuable aide to protect a person in their home. You live alone gals, get a good caliber pistol and learn how to use it !
There are many homes with a pistol at the ready whether in a nightstand or other close location. It will stop an intruder much faster however if you get a little larger caliber. GOOD FOR YOU. YOU saved yourself from untold long lasting psycological treatment by pulling the trigger. I know you feel bad, but you would have had a life time of scarred living. You'll get over this much easier.

I have to get a gun.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Good for her!! Too bad that it was only a .22, but perhaps it made him suffer a little before dying.

She did the right thing! She simply protected herself in her own home....in time, hopefully her
nightmare will move on, and hopefully it won't be too long...in the mean time she still suffer's at the cost of another human being! A very sick one...

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy to tote around

Good for her I am glad she shot him, thats what needs to be done.

Good for her. She kept her wits about her and protected herself. What if the lobbyists had been able to take her gun away? She might be dead now instead of the scum bag. Don't let them take our guns.

Good for you that you were able to protect yourself and would hope that I would be able to do the same thing if it ever happened to me. As for the negative responders just think what if that had been your daughter, wife, mother or sister how would you feel about it if they were faced with the same situation would you rather that were raped or killed. Think about it.

Absolutely my hero. I'm so glad she was able to get the gun and shoot him before he got it from her. Anyone that breaks into another's home is not coming over for breakfast. I have a gun, and have absolutely no issue with shooting first......ask/answer questions later.

this dispatcher is horrible! she kept badgering the poor woman. where is her sensitivity!

Thank you, thank you, thank you from America and it's citizens!

I absolutely think she done the right thing, he would of hurt or killed her if he had the chance first, or raped her..God
bless her ......

She was justified in her actions. I feel that it should be federal law that you can kill an intruder and not be charged with a crime. If a law abiding citizen feels under threat, they can use deadly force. End of discussion. Doesn't matter if they have a weapon or not. If someone goes into someone's house with out permission of the home owner, they forfeit their right to life plain and simple. For that matter, if someone sets foot on someone's property (even outsided of the house) and the resident tells them to leave and they don't, the deadly force is justified. All states of the union must adapt this mind set and maybe we will all be safer.

Stephen H. Darden

good job girl. too bad here in NC we have to keep our guns locked in a safe when kids live in your house. Too many idiots have guns and don't educate their children about th'em and about the dangers of guns, so of course if you don't teach kids about guns, and you hide them from the kids, the more intrigued they get when they happen upon a gun. this is dangerous, people educate your children about guns so stupid laws like NC has won't be needed to prevent accidents. I just hope if someone breaks into my house while my wife is home, they'll allow her time to get her gun out of the safe before the try to kill her infront of my kids. Some Politicians are STUPID!

Kudos to the woman who had the good sense to keep a loaded 22 in her bedroom. This was obviously an intentional act of planning ahead for self defense.

Amendment II ....the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

With the exception of convicted felons and the mentally handicapped, every citizen should own and know how to use a firearm for self protection.

I sincerely pray this woman is able to quickly move past the trauma of the event.

Good job, the jerk deserved it.

I agree with Terry. We too often hear on the news about missing women and then their remains being discovered. We hear too little about how women can protect themselves. In my opinion, if someone breaks into your home they are there to do you harm...shoot um!

justice served w/speedy trial

I would be interested in Israel's immigration status... however, chalk another one up for the Second Amendment. Bet you won't see this covered on CNN or PMSNBC.

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great job, you are alive and the bad guy is dead. That is how it should be.. Know that you did nothing wrong. Thank God we are in the USA where we have the right to have protection, guns, and you had the guts to use it well.Bless you

This is exactly what Ted Nugent was trying to explain to that Pierce Lame Brain on his show. In communities where the citizens are armed, crime goes down, not up. Until we put real teeth into American criminal law, we need to protect ourselves. My advice to the woman, buy something a bit more potent, like a Glock or a Walther PPK 9mm. She's lucky that she managed to kill him with a .22 pistol.

I have a concealed carry permit. When I am out , I'm armed.

She was extremely fortunate to have the presence of mind and to actually be able to get to the gun! I have been held up twice - face-to-face - and there is no way I could have gottten to a gun. I believe that people who know how to use them should have them to protect themselves. I've heard people say, "If it happened to me, this is what I would do, blah, blah, blah..." You don't know until you've lived it.

kill them all and let god sort it out

Someone exercising her 2nd admendment right against a piece of s--t. Send this tape to Bloomsberg, Shummer and they rest of those who oppose the 2nd admendment! Maybe through DNA this scum bag will account for other attacks or crimes. This woman should receive a commendation from the Mayor. Is he an Illegal immigrant?

It's just too bad that we'll never read anything about this in any of the major newspapers or hear about it on TV news such as NBC,CBS, ABC, etc.
Thank goodness this women had her gun and obviously knew how to use it to defend herself. She fought back and had the right mindset to do what she did.

I wonder if the anti~gun leftists are fuming mad on this one. The lady did the right thing to protect herself. She didn't really have much choice but to shoot.

That a gal, good for you. That's what's meant by GUN CONTROL.

you go little lady!!! No problem with that!!!!@

I hope the blood didn't stain the carpet.

I send a huge virtual hug to this woman..... and then a pat on the back for a job well done. SHE is a survivor and thankfully will do so without the bullsh*t thats attached to surviving after an attack like that is completed. Truth be known, the righteous jubilation of making a potential rapist suffer immensely prior to death is of course just another sickness.....but it is a sickness that should be savored if the intended victim has the where-with-all to carry it through.

To those who commented that guns are not the answer.Keep in mind that through out our history our forefathers kept guns in the house, they were a part of daily life just as an axe and a mule were. Kids grew up learning to use them and most importantly to respect them. Try finding cases in our 1700 and 1800's history in which someone was accidently shot with a gun and you will find almost none.

The problem occurs with the person who purchases a gun on a whim with no exsperience with it. As for this woman's actions I applaud and congradulate her. She did exactly what she should have done. Her only mistake was using such a small caliber weapon.

Thank you mame. I only hope that the stress and the crap you are about to get from the a..hole liberals and bleeding hearts passes quickly. You did the right thing. You are alive and unhurt and the rest of the community is a little safer. Next time send the a..hole over to the liberals house. Then lets see what they say after there daughters are raped.

Thank God she was in Georgia instead of Maryland, Massachusetts or one of the other liberal enclaves.

Good Girl,Im so glad u shot that S.O.B.He deserved it,I would have done the samething....I just wanted you 2 know that Im very proud of you.Dont feel bad you have done nothing wrong........We need more woman,(people) like you,2 not be afraid 2 defend their selves

I've been through some pretty hectic situations, and think this woman showed a great deal of presence of mind. a panic stricken person is more likely to make fatal mistakes. For all those readers out there, it is a scary world, and it's a good idea to have some training, just in case. maybe the police won't show up in time, and you'll have to save yourself, who knows? always good to prepare for anything. I'm the best shot in my family, both my kids have passed their hunters safety course, and we're all honest about social violence rising when times are lean. We don't constantly worry about violence, we're pretty confident we can handle what comes our way. plus, we're aware enough to recognize worry, panic, negative emotional responses in general are secondary to fear. You overcome fear by learning to trust yourself in this big, genuinely scary world. Hats off to this woman, hopefully I'd be sharp enough to handle myself the same. I'd be using a hotter round, for sure, but go with what you know, she did well.

Gun History Lesson: In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control from 1929 to 1953, 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1911, gun control in Turkey led to the extermination of 1.5 million Armenians. Germany, 1938, 13 million Jews exterminated. China, 1935, 20 million political dissidents exterminated, Guatemala, 1964, 100,000 Mayan Indians, Uganda, 1970, 300,000 Christians, Cambodia, 1956, one million 'educated ' people exterminated. Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. After 12 months of gun control in Australia, people forced by law to give up their guns, homicides went up 3.2 percent, assaults went up 8.6 percent, and armed robberies went up 44 percent! Admiral Yamamoto said he did not follow up Pearl Harbor with a ground invasion because he lived in the US and knew Americans owned guns. Bad guys, a dime a dozen. Home defense, priceless!

In and emergency, like this woman; when seconds count, The police are minutes away!!!

Get yourselves pistols, better yet a shotgun. Nothing says Your not welcome like the ratcheting
of a shot gun!!!

This lady was totally within her rights to protect herself. Many people panic and lose the ability to react when under extreme duress. I applaud this woman for having the presence of mind to save herself and eliminate a menace to society.

I think it's great that AOL put this link. I live in the Atlanta area and I was hoping this story would get around. All it takes is one bad guy to face a homeowner who won't give in to maybe put some fear in some of the other bad guys.

Thank you for a job well done. You also saved many woman from the same horrific future attacks and that's something to feel good about. Your decision to shoot as many times as possible was a very wise, good, decision. The rule of thumb, keep shooting until the criminal stops moving then shoot one more time for your safety. Believe it or not you held your composure to get the job done, some people just can't and it's not their fault. The best self defense is practice, practice, practice shooting in mind scenario of 10 feet is to close for safety, shoot. I am proud of you. LEO&FF.

Not only did this man try to kill her and perhaps might have raped her, but he traumatized her for life too. She did the only thing she could have done to protect herself. This man had no redeeming features
to live on this earth.

Bravissimo gal, one less skank to pollute this planet. As for the .22 caliber, my guess is she probably bought a .22 because she was advised by seller that it was low recoil and low blast noise and light weight. A .22 can be deadly with the right ammo and or good aim ( read Israeli Mossad assassination ) but not advisable in an extreme emergency. So, For all you gals who want to defend yourself, TAKE THE ADVICE ALREADY OFFERED: GO TO A GUN RANGE AND TRY OUT DIFFERENT WEAPONS. And if you can, try firing on an open range somewhere. GUNS MAKE VERY LOUD NOISES. DON'T buy a revolver. Semi-automatics like Glock etc carry more bullets. THEN PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE, so you can hit what you are shooting at and the noise doesn't distract you.

May the force be with you ! A gun. Not a light saber !

Fantastic lady...I would love to shake your hand.....

now...can we get someone like her on these left-wing talk shows like Tavis Smiley who only tells the side of the story where a father tells of gang members killing his son....lets get more people like her telling the public how a gun saved their life!

Truth be known, the righteous jubilation of making a potential rapist suffer immensely prior to death is of course just another sickness.....but it is a sickness that should be savored if the intended victim has the where-with-all to carry it through.

To John you would warn someone so that they could move on to someone else and that person end up dead. With the way you think you would probably warn a person if this was your wife being violated. How nice of you to give this kind of person the opportunity to rob and violate another woman. Your opinion means you do not value life. This woman had a knife . The person meant to rape her and then probably kill her. You are sick just like the man who broke into this woman's house.

Dumbass, brought a knife to a gunfight.

this lady helped save umtold numbers of women this same fate and provided true ustice for all his previous victims.

correction not woman had knife man did

I wouldn't care what the law is, come into my home without my consent or a warrent and all you will gain is a one way trip to hell and new air conditioning between those ears!

Good for her. Too bad this is rarely the case. The police always tell you when it comes to an intruder and you have to use a gun; shoot to kill. Hope this is a message to all the scumbags out there; sometimes the victim turns the table on you. I Don't feel bad about the guy she shot one bit.

way to go aol. it's about time some media outlets recognized that people have a right to protect themselves and do it all the time. the lamestream media doesn't report it so that there is no evidence of the fact. therefore giving the gun grabbers "ammo" to say that self protection is unnecessary. Don't buy it... Arm yourself

Lesson to us ALL .Make sure your home is NOT that easy to break into. I prevented 4 teens from breaking into my vacant rental,withthe common chain lock $3. By using 4-5 inch screws,not the 1/2 inch supplied.After they destroyed the door and window in the door,not until then did the chain do its job.After spending all that time, they finally gave up after the neighbors heard them slamming there weight into the door,the 4 inch screws were pulled out only 1/2 depth. Put bars on ONLY the window they would choose to break through. I put Bars ON that window AFTER they broke in,I knew I was putting that job off. Make your home difficult enough to break into ,that they dont try or give up after no success. This labor can save you so much pain. If you have a gun LEARN HOW to use it.There is NO LAW in the ARENA,no laws will protect you, acquire what it takes to protect yourself.

Thank God victim took action, no time wasted, Anne got her gun and did her thing.....Great Job!!

My prayers go out to the victim that has to live with the knowledge that she took a human life. Though I have never had to myself (and hope never have to) I understand that it is a difficult burden to bear even when the person you've killed left you no choice. As for the perp, he 's paid in full for the crime he committed so it's okay to pray for him as well. After all, God loves him too. One can only hope, other d**kheads like that will take note and think twice before they try and assault a "weak" victim. I live in CA. and the leftist regime here has piled on the restrictions, limiting or preventing law abiding Citizens the ability to protect Hearth, Home and Family as they are guaranteed by the Constitution. What WE need is a Federal repeal of unconstitutional gun laws in the States that have passed or attempt to pass them.

With respect to the ladies choice of weapon here, all the story said was that she had a .22 cal. If it was just a .22lr than she is indeed lucky that she hit him where she did as the round typically will just "poke holes" at close range. A .22 Mag with jacketed hollow point bullets however, can deliver a substantial amount of energy and lethality at close range (10-15ft). My Pap, who was a skilled gunsmith as well as an expert marksmen, figured that out when trying to find a pistol/caliber/load combination that would work for my Ma. While most Men prefer a large caliber for obvious reasons ( I am partial to the .41 Rem. Mag. myself), many women are not as comfortable handling that kind of horse power. And remember the key, as it was in this case, was hitting the target where it mattered, when it mattered. I would recommend that every woman arm herself with something that she is comfortable shooting and that she practice until she can operate it and hit what she aims at without thinking

God, I only hope I can be as brave and and stable in thought as this lady if I should ever have to go thru such an horrendous confrontation. She has done herself and everyother woman or man PROUD!!!! My sister had this happen to her; she didn't even get the gun out of the holster but she managed to get her finger on the trigger and pointed that baby in her attachers face. The A--hole BEGGED her not to shoot. Can you imagine what would have happened if she and this lady didn't have protection in the form of A FRIGGIN GUN. God gave us a brain and man gave us guns. I wish the lady peace of mind. U took care of business.

You can always get a bigger gun later if you think you need one.

I am a liberal and a gun owner (many guns actually) and I always have at least two handguns loaded and ready for home defense. What does being a liberal have to do with gun ownership?

Can anyone give me an address on this very Brave Lady? I would like to send her some more ammo.

Jake, I disagree with you on the statement about not buying a revolver. Any semi-automatic requires a round beiing put in the barrel and taking it off SAFETY. Most folks in a non-thinking situation of life or death WILL NOT remember to do those things, especially if they are not really familiar and proficient with a handgun. Therefore I recommend a revolver, if it is loaded all you have to do is POINT AND PULL TRIGGER to shoot! I keep the cylinder under the hammer empty for safety sake.

I wouldn't have called 911, just use the non-emergency number. Anyhow, well done lady and thanks AOL for this thread.

Good for her, Traumatizing as it is, she will be better for it. She should be the next poster for why you need more women to carry. Like my many instructors have said " The reason I carry a gun is because I can't fit a cop in my pocket." It's as simple as that.

Great article great comments.

ONE LESS PIECE OF SHIT TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY TO KEEP IN JAIL ~~ ONE LESS MEXICAN IN AMERICA !!! THANK GOD FOR THE 2ND AMENDMENT !!!!!!

here in florida, we are legally able to shoot an intruder. the catch is, IF they survive they can sue you for damage inflicted on them. moral of the story, shoot until they are good & dead. then shoot them again.

Going to hurt this women cause he felt like it? How you feel now?

This lady is a brave inspiration to us all. Not only did she assist in cleansing the human gene pool, she saved the taxpayers of GA untold thousands in trial costs as well as the incredible amount on money we all would have had to pay to house this piece of dog squeeze for the rest of his life. I am so glad she is unharmed. I hope she doesn't waste a moment feeling guilty.

Do good to he who does you evil, if someone smites you on one cheek turn the other so he may smite that as well. Lucky for her she lives in a country where Christ's teachings are ignored. Remember when trouble starts Chrisian pacificism just gets in the way.

I'm liberal, I have a conceal carry permit, and I am thrilled this lady had the ability to think, react and act quickly in such a dire situation. My only concern is for her mental well being, as I hope she does not waste one moment of her life worrying about taking this beast's life. Had he escaped, he would have attacked another person almost immediately. Had he lived and been incarcerated, he would have learned that speaking victims put you in jail, and he would be better prepared once parolled. Sadly, sexual predators really are not capable of rehabilitation. This is not a random thought or knee jerk reaction. It is based on knowledge and experience working within the Virginia criminal justice system.

The liberals want to take away our guns so thing like this want happen.
The poor man lost his life because the homeowner had a gun.
What's the world coming too. The criminal didn't even have a chance.

All law abiding citizens should own and learn to use a firearm for this very reason.
Life member of the NRA. Pro Seconded Amendment.

this woman is a hero

I live in Indiana and usually always carry a 45 Auto, but sometimes a 9mm or even sometimes both since i do have a carrying permit. And since you do not have to have it covered up (Legally Speaking) I don't always want to wear a "trench coat" to cover them, and one of my best friends asked me "why do you carry two guns" "are you Scared" and i naturally said "No i'm just PREPARED". And I do agree that the best reason to carry a gun is because a cop is too heavy.

Best thing she could of used, especially if she got off more than one shot to the rib cage .Having worked on a resue squad, had an emergency room doctor tell me it is probably the deadly's gun out there!! A 22 has enough power to penetrate the rib cage, but not enough power to exit. It just rickoshays in the rib cage until it runs out of speed or lodges in a bone usually cutting main artery's, lung's ,esophogus, heart !! Victim usually doesn't die imeddately, but almost always dies{due to all the holes in major organs}. Victims of 22 shooting usually complain of being on fire and if possible seek out cold running water, to put out the fire they are expersing. I hope he had enough time to reflect on his intention's for his chossen victim, and realized the meniscule heat he was suffering was nothing compared to the eternity of heat he will suffer in Hell. I truly feel sorry for this women having to live with the experience of knowing she had too take someone's life and future. How many other victims did she save?? No one will ever know. I personally am praying for her, that she may overcome this unwanted tradegy. May God bless her, heal her mentally and physically , grant her a long healthy and happy life. I'm proud of her the life she took may have saved your's, a loved one, or mine!!!

This scum had been found guilty of 8, EIGHT, felonies in Nebraska. Four of those convctions were terroristic threats. Please read again what I wrote. That is 8 felony convictions and only 34. Last arrest was six months before this event but he was out walking around. Amazing.

Good for her, one less to worry about. You do need a larger caliber gun though. And they want to take our gun's over my dead body!!!

Carl, good comment. I am a retired cop who raised 4 kids without ANY problem or incident with a firearm. They were taught almost from the time they could walk what a gun was and what it was for. Replace the curiosity with training and you will do away with problems. My hats off to this lady and to all of you who have expressed support. I love the t-shirt Idea, I may get one.

How much does anyone want to bet that Israel Perez Puentes turns out to be an Illegal Alien who was in this Country???? Well, One less problem that we have to worry about! I know that this sounds cruel, but what he was going to do this Woman, He deserves what He got! Anyone & Everyone deserves to Protect themselves because the Judicial System cuddles these Criminals! The Minnesota Taxpayers were spared the Cost of a Trial & Locking this Guy Up!

I am happy for her outcome, and that no charges will be posted against her. My wife was verbally abused and beaten up by her brother and father inside our house while protecting her ill mother from them . She went into our bedroom retrieved a gun and told them to leave. When she went outside to help her mother into the truck they beat her up again, took the gun away and called the police. The Police never asked her why she pulled a gun on them, but rather only took statements from her father and brother. Guess what they said! She was jailed and had to pay several thousand dollars for bail, lawyers fees, and getting her name cleared for family violence. The judge never asked to see the photos and doctors exam records revealing her injuries from the beating . Antonio Tx.

This is for the writer of the story Faye Edmundson, was the attacker Israel Perez Puentes and ilegal
alien? This is a very important fact that I feel was left out. Please let us know.

I am glad that she was able to get to her pistol. A larger caliber would have been better, but hers got the job done. The shower or tub is a vunerable place to be for anyone. I carry a Glock, but it isn't in the bathroom when I shower so I depend on my dog to warn me. I wish that stories like this would make the news. The shooter's name and address wouldn't have to be used to protect them from the perpertrator's friends or family.

Good for her. On a side note, I think it's terrific that the two major criminal groups in this country are easily identified by their names. One group has hispanic names and the other names their boys things like DeRicky and Tyler the Creator.

If you choose to unarmed and defenseless you have decided that you are willing to let a criminal make the decision whether you live or die. That is really what the rabid anti gun people expect of us. Their fear and hatred of a tool of self-defense is so pathological and plain cowardly that they would turn their and their family's lives over to someone who has already demonstrated a violent intent.

No thank you. Even if I lose in the end, I intend to fight back with everything I can.

Get a gun, buy a good one with plenty of knockdown power, take classes on how to use it and practice regularly. If you live in a state that allows you to carry, then do so. Be proactive in your own defense and do not concede your right to exist to some thug, drug addict or maniac. That's my strongly held position and I am a lifelong liberal Democrat.

Good for her.

Amen, and God bless this Lady. My prayers go out to her. The liberals that agree with the second amendment need to speak up and help the pro-gun people take our country back from the liberals and others that want to take our guns away. The present regime in power in the US is trying to take our freedoms and our guns away so they can rule over us with an iron fist. But as long as I have breath in my body they won't get my guns, they might get the wrong end of it. They can have it when they pry my cold dead fingers off of it!!!!

Good for her! The guy got exactly what he deserved. I just wish more victims could successfully shoot their assailants like she did!

Sounds like this is a town with TOO MANY GUNS!

Meaning: a town where more people are armed, the less crime is likely to be committed... Meaning: this scum bag is not able to do any more shootings or killings... The victim (s) can of course, put their guns away, knowing they've helped eliminate the piece of garbage who tried to kill them & prove that they are NOT the perpetrators, just because THEY are the ones who own guns!

Gun Ownership: PRODUCT vs. CONDUCT!!!! --DID I MISS ANYTHING????

As a retired Peace Officer, I've been through a few "surprises" myself, nothing like this brave lady, but the surprises came just the same. After two tours in Vietnam, killing someone that's trying to do you in is almost second nature. She did the right thing and probably saved others from the same intention this dirt bag had in mind.
I've investigated shootings and have found that that little .22 or .25 round can really spoil someones day..that round just follows the path of lest resistance. Lots of territory is available to it. God Bless you my lady and you can be my partner anytime.Duane

Give this woman a medal and another box of bullets! It's about time some of these less than human creeps got their just desserts. This is a prime example of why the right to own and bear firearms should be defended and upheld. The police cannot be everywhere, and when they do get there, it's usually too late. Bless you ma'am for having the courage to do what had to be done, you most likely saved your own life as well as the lives of many other women.

How many criminals would be out there preying on innocent people, if more homes were self protected by a proficient gunowner? Look at it this way- how many people would go duck hunting if 5% of the ducks shot back?
Good job by this woman to NOT be a victim! That scum deserved to be turned into worm food!

F- HIM AS MUCH AS I DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH AVERAGE JOE RUNNING OUT AND BUYING A GUN TO PROTECT THEM SELVES ,,, " A LIL SOMETHING FOR THE HOUSE ..."
BECAUSE PEOPLE GET CARELESS AND A SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENS ,,,, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS ,,, AND THAN I CHANGE MY OPINION . LIKE I SAID F- HIM MAYBE GUNS IN THE HOUSE CLEARLY SAVED THIS YOUNG WOMAN ....
BUT THEN AGAIN ...

SOME DUDE SAID THE WORLD WAS GONNA END TONIGHT ,.,,,, IT DID FOR THIS JIT BAG .....

I absolutely love the line "I shot him as much as I could". When a cop is only minutes away, you need help in seconds. Next time get a larger caliber and shoot them as much as you can.

And she did it with a little 22, See youll don't need that AK47 assault rifle.

The NRA would be proud!

I said John is a jerk because he would warn the guy before shooting. If you break into my house you mean to rob and do me bodily harm so get off my back. you guys misinterpreted what i said. Good for the lady she protected herself. leave me the alone. i praised the lady for doing what she did she protected herself.

WHY did you include an address in this story???

oh no are the bullets ok? man that guy was so rude leaving a bloody mess on her floor sheesh home intruders who get shot these days (it actually happens more than you think)

Good job lady: I wanted to ad that many years ago, as a young Law Enforcement Officer, I would come home and place my weapon on the top shelf in the closet. My 3 young kid were aware of it. None of them ever touched the weapon. I took them to the range when they were young an let them fire the weapon. ( 357 mag). All 3 grew up to be Law Enforcement Officers. I am so proud.

I agree she did the RIGHT thing and would add the following....(it might be worth reading).

At one time in man's history members of a tribe who did something negative (not conducive the tribe's survival) were forced out of the cave, hut or village. These individuals did not survive (and procreate) more often than not I suspect. Over time we became better humans as those genes were removed from the population pool. Our laws today run contrary to this in many areas......hmmm???

God bless you Lady, you did what you had too and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I own several guns myself and am licensed to carry. My NRA instructor told me I don't have to worry about flinching because I don't and I would not like to shoot someone but if I had too I would and the cops in my neck of the woods know that I am armed and told me I should be. They also know that I will shoot if I have too and that I don't want too but will if it comes down to it. I think god was with you and gave you the presence of mind to do what you needed too. I believe everyone should be armed. If they take our guns get a cross bow. Learn to shoot a shot gun and you got it covered. I will keep you in my prayers and ask for you to be at peace.

I'm glad she was able to protect herself - it may very well have saved her life. But a lot of you folks need to understand that the odds are much greater that a gun in the house will be used AGAINST the resident. No gun should be where any child can reach it, and adults, when going for their guns to protect themselves, have to have the "KILL" mindset. Too often, the victim hesitates, either out of fear or hesitance to hurt or kill another human being, and then loses control of the situation, which can then lead to losing the gun, and then one's life (and/or others' lives). - Just being proud of owning a gun, and a macho attitude like that expressed by many people here, can, overall, do more harm than good! It's very possible that you might be safer without a gun than with one.

Well Greg Easter aka Sarah Brady, according to FBI statistics, firearms are used more than 700,000 times a year to fend off criminal attack. You don't hear of this for two reasons, first in most instances it isn't necessary to discharge the weapon, the criminal flees at the sight of his intended victim being armed.
Second, the media tends to ignore incidents in which guns are successfully used for self defense.
The truth is, gun control advocates are some of the best armed people around. If you think Michael Bloomberg and Richard Daley aren't armed, think again, both have concealed weapons permits. They just don't want the rest of us enjoying the same rights.

Chopper, Thank You for the Info! However, It still wouldn't surprise me that he may have been an Illegal Alien. I've personally heard too many stories of Crimes being committed by Illegal Aliens here in the United States! There was a Incident that occurred in Arizona when 4 Illegal Aliens did a Home Invasion of a Elderly Hispanic Homeowner (A U.S. Citizen)! Two were shot, one was wounded while escaping in their Vehicle! Needless to say they were caught at the Hospital! I want however to say this. The Majority of Illegal Aliens that come to this Country are just looking for work. I Understand that even though they are "Breaking Our Immigration Laws." I have NO Quarrel with them. It's the ones that Commit Serious Felonies like what happened here! I have NO SYMPATHY with those Individuals at All! You kill U.S. Citizens & then claim that You're "Oppressed?" I Don't Buy That! This particular Story should be a Wake-Up Call on Would-Be Home Invaders! You do a Home Invasion & Break into Someone Else's House, You Better Have Your Last Will & Testament Made Out & Your Life Insurance Premium Paid Out In Full!!!! You'll Be Needing It!

I would like to know was Mr. Israel Perez Puentes in the United States of America legally or was he one of the ones that is going to get free health care, schooling, food stamps, and a job if he wants it or welfare. I don't need her birth certificate because he is not running for office just want to know if he was legal or not?

I'm a Democrat. While I totally believe in this woman's right to have a gun (and use it in this instance), what I don't believe in is people's right to have assault weapons or have guns without a proper background check. Why is there no moderation in this country anymore?

Good for her. She did the right thing. If she tried taking him out on any thing else other than a gun she probably would have recieved her one way ticket to heaven. There are loads with creeps out there that don't give two s**ts for you or I and will kill or rape any woman with no hesitation. Every one in the US should have a gun to protect them selfs. If we all law abiting citizens had guns there would be a lot less crimes commited. Let us all take up and sign a form saying we all want the laws changed on owning firearms and allow us to protect our selfs in our homes from criminals. If there is any law students or lawyer reading this would you please write up the form concerning the above and send it to the proper government department. I think if we all work together on this I beleive we'll have a good chance at getting our laws on guns changed for the better. Please do not ignor this very important issue and take action ASAP. Thank you, Al.

PS Where we can first start is getting hold of our Congressmen asking them to help us change the gun laws by mentioning the ideas I gave above.

Good for her. Chalk one up for the good guys. At least the right person got shot this time.

My wife is never more than 30 feet from a gun anywhere in the house! She has been taught to shoot from kneeling position, from sitting, and prone. Very comfortable with all of them with a gun. Head shots only! Hell with this center of mass crap! Head shots baby! Kitchen, laundry room, dinning room (eat all your veggies now), living room, doesn't matter! starnge noise? Investigate with gun up front.

Been a aol customer since 2002, wrote another captution to this story used the word {crap}. I forgot how upset hp gets it you mention Hope and change in 2012 apparrently there is no freedom of speach on hp unless they like what you say, my fault I forgot how thin skinned the lefty socialist are, guess I will be looking for another online provider if you can't mention the ten commandment's and salutating the flag and praising God in public out loud, keep it up you make me feel good!! I know I won't be spending etirinity with you in the after-life. Got a funny feeling you will need a boat load of sun block, sorry, fire retardent yourself. Best of luck you loosers, you will need it where you are going!!

good shooting

my wife is quite the marksman, don't have to worry about her not being able to shoot anybody

florida has a "stand your ground" law you don't have to be in your home. anywhere a life is in peril from an a hole you have the right to defend by any means

I've never had to use the .38 I keep by my bed and pray I never will. But if I have to , I will !

30 years in law enforcement something doesn't sound right to me.

Kudos to this woman for defending herself. She really should consider a 9mm as it has more stopping power - but my wife prefers the .22 also for its accuracy. She can knock a fly off your shoulder at 30 feet with her .22 Walther. I use the 45, which is much less accurate, but all you have to do it hit once and you are good. The 9mm is a good compromise for accuracy and stopping force.

Miner Injury's? May be this is her version of the story. This whole scenario could have been fabricated. Maybe this was someone who scorned her so she decided to shoot him. Maybe because he was hispanic and because of the sterotypes that are out there she knew people would easily believe her story. I happen to think it's strange that she didn't call the police from her home after she LOCKED him out when he ran out the door. She ran out the door where the INTRUDER WAS to call the police. The house she ran over to, was this a planned alibi? He is dead so we'll never know the truth now would we. Don't be so quick to believe what you read.

I live in Alabama and we also have a "castle law" which pretty much covers a homeowner in a situation such as this. The first thing that goes in my pocket every morning is my handgun...as they say.."I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it"..This lady did the ONLY common sense thing she could do and effectively stopped the threat...Unfortunately this is the real world and there are MANY more such as these lurking about...be prepared.

This poor women. She was quick to think and most likely it saved her life.

gggj

How come 99% of the time these turds are named LeShawn, Tyrone, Jose' or Julio?

Three l-o-n-g; and very l-o-u-d cheers for this Heroine and the 2nd Amendment.

If every citizen would take the time to sign-up for an approved one-day "Permit to Carry" a fire arm; these types of home invasions would all but disappear.

God Bless America and "The Poster Lady for Self Defense" in Georgia.

Jon Dee

no if ands or butts here,,she killed the killer,,thestalker,,look at this pos vermin,,,i would make a billboard of his dead stinkin fly maggott riddled body,,and should these liberal progressives,,and THE GLOBALIST SMALL ARMS TREATY IDIOTS,,THE WE[AMERICANS] DONT PLAY,,somolia pirates..ms=13--la raza,,crypts,,bloods,,,al-queda,,what else,,,,,,,,,i love love love my weapons of criminal destruction!!!!!!!!boyyy!

THATS GREAT I WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME

This Woman should be ashamed...The poor guy just wanted a little affection. Why didn't she just talk to him and find out what he really wanted? They could have been Pals. This is a perfect example as to why Guns should be Outlawed. There are too many people being killed with guns when a simple conversation could solve any problem. You know it wasn't the man's fault...He comes from a broken home and people have yelled at him. Told him that he was not any good. Think of his low self-esteme...........and Obama is not going to raise your taxes, make gas and fuel prices go higher, take away your freedom, support Muslims that want to kill Americans and make America a Getto.

Support your beliefs and 2nd. Adm rights.
Join the NRA.
Bill

Glad this lady could protect herself-- wish others could--I'm a NRA certified firearm instructor ( with carry permit) and teach one on one hand gun "safety & use classes" for free to anyone I know as my time alows . I keep loaded guns in my home / auto some locked up ,some unlocked all in easy reach. My children have been taught how to shoot and know what shooting something means ! They have never touched any type if firearm in the house including BB guns without asking permission, but know they can in an emergency. The only gun control we really need is the gun owner using their local range to become good at shooting their firearm. EVERY homeowner should be prepared to defend themselves and their family from street trash looking to do harm to others.

"men are not hung for stealing horses. They are hung that horses shall not be stolen." William Shakespear.

I hope the guy had a chance to think before he died...and hurt. Bully for you, lady.
Alf

In Breat Britian and most EU countries she would be charged with murder and multiple firearms offences. That's where this nation is headed.
Gun control advocates will take incremental "sensible" steps to disarm the US population. The US is one of the last bastions of private, legal firearms ownership in the world.
Events like this, where an innocent person protected her life with a firearm, mean nothing to these people and will not change the opinions gun control advocates. They will get your guns one way or another.

I am glad to see all the positive responses about gun ownership. To all you people who believe in your right to defend yourself, I urge you to join the National Rifle Association. There are many politicians who want to deny you that right. The NRA fights to defend that right.

One thing you all are neglecting!!! I bet 100% this "puentes" guy was an ILLEGAL ALIEN IMMIGRANT allowed in this country by the Democrats under obama keeping the US borders as loose and unwatched as possible...I bet this guy was a registered democrat voter in this country illegally! Funny how the Mafia uses .22's to kill their rivals...a .22 jumps all over the inside of the body once it hits some mass or bone and causes unbelievable damage to the body!!! Great shooting GALFRIEND!!! Hopefully she shot him in the testicles and penis at least once!!

GOOD FOR HER, SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND HER HOME, AND HER SELF. If the police can't do it then we should. I have nothing against the police, But they have a very difficult job. With a Name like Puentias, he was probebley an ILLEGLE anyway. We should do what Castro did. We should open our prisons, and send our SCUM to these other froeign countries NEVER TO RETURN, Then we should build a HUGH wall al;l along the MExican coast, Just like the Great wall of China, Electric of corse. Our President Has NO BALLS, but needs to grow some.If more citizens stood up and defended themselfs, theis would be a GREATER country than it is. He got what he deserved. Did he worry about the citizen, He most likely would have raped, beat, or murdered her, So HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED!!!!!

If President Obama,Eric Holder and Big Sis had been doing the job they are suppose to be doing -this crimminal like so many others like him have been a resident of his own country----and our crime rates would drop dramatically as well as the high cost to police,courts and US Citizen's cost in harm and property loss -Great job protecting herself!-Ed

How do you tell if an intruder is leaving or taking up a new tactical position?

I am a 73 yr old widow.. I have a 32 on top of the fridge, a 22 in the cabinet and a 38 in the nightstand by my bed. Also, an elaborate alarm system and a fifty lb dog.. BRING it on rapists, thugs, dopeheads.. MAKE MY DAY. I am right on with this lady.. I do think it was too simple for this thug to enter her home.. She needs a security system..and motion lights.....I am so glad she was able to get to her gun.. Just wish she could have shot him more and with higher caliber.. And also to the idiot who brought race into this issue, I believe the intruder was Hispanic not black.. Anyway, what difference did it make whether his ding-dong was black, brown or white. He was going to rape her for sure and probably kill her.. I am glad the SOB is dead.........

Quote of the Week: “I took my .22, and I shot him as much as I could.”

clever,brave lady ..what an ordeal ..so happy she survived and the monster got what he deserved...the dispatcher,though doing her job,was in no way comforting to this poor woman who had just been thru hell.

Obviously this story is red meat for those who favor more guns. I understand and sympathize with those feelings. But the sad fact is that for every story like this there are 50 stories about family members being shot and killed - either accidentally or intentionally. Like most controversial issues, there are no simple answers.

Mr. Perez Puentes is getting about as much sympathy on this blog as he did in the house. Now he can be deported - in a bag. He's in a special place in hell - right beside bin laden. Maybe he can attack one of bin laden's virgins - he has 72 of them, you know. He'll never miss one.

Why isn't it stated how many prior federal felonie's he was convicted of 9 yust in Nebraska alone. Plus

On of the many terrific reason to stand by your 2nd Amendment rights! Praise God for our American forefathers!

I often encounter emotional gun control people who beleive that guns are the problem and not the solution. I have found a great tool for those willing to read. It is a book called More Guns Less Crime by John R. Lott, Jr., he was a professor of economics at the University of Chicago when he wrote it. GO FIGURE. For any one who believes in logic this is the book to have!!!!

To the woman who shot the intruder. YOU DID RIGHT!!! You were protecting yourself, and it was the right thing to do, and don't let anyone tell you different. As far as people saying it should have been a bigger caliber, remember this. It's not the size of the gun, it's how comfortable you feel with it and the job it does. In this case the .22 was enough gun to get the job done which was to get the attacker off and away from her. In my home I keep at least 3 loaded guns. I'm usaully within a couple of feet from one anywhere in the house.

For all the gun supporters HELLo there are way more innocent people kille by guns then there are justified killings by guns as in this story, So there is No reason to bash gun supporters , wake up
Smell the gun powder! ~ Columbine, West Virginia tech, and thousands of murders a year by guns.

In New York City, she would have to go before the grand jury. There would be a major investigation. The gun would be taken away. She would be labeled "the crazy lady that shoots people" If you want to defend yourself New York City is the WRONG place to be.

JUSTICE SERVED,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, this woman is a HERO, she showed GUN CONTROL,, kept it and shot it and hit what she needed. Used it for what it was intended for. Think about the millions saved in court costs to defend this RAPIST. HATS OFF TO HER, she should be proud of herself, keeping her wits and knowing what needed to be done.
CRIMINALS are the ones using guns for WRONG THINGS, (in this case a KNIFE)

Gun laws are only for the law biding people , theres no money to be made in controlling criminals !

GOOD FOR HER!!! You go woman!! =) Makes me think about putting a gun in my nightstand ...

This is a great example of a DEAD offender versus a REPEAT offender.
Gun control and drug control are the same. When there are no more criminals using drugs, perhaps then there will also be a way to effectively keep guns away from the criminals as well. So far, NOT WORKING. I'LL KEEP MY GUNS AS LONG AS THERE ARE CRIMINALS WHO NEED TO BE SHOT.

I hope she doesn't feel any guilt whatsoever. He had a deadly weapon, PERIOD. Who knows how many other women were victimized by this monster, or how many more she saved from this creep? I'd dig him up and shoot him again if I could!

That woman is my HERO!!!!!!!! I'm buying a gun today!!!

For all of you saying that she was lucky to have killed him with a .22 calibur gun, think about it this way - it apparently took awhile for this idiot to die (can't believe I am talking like this), so he obviously had time to think about what he had done and know that he was paying the ultimate price for his crime. At least it wasn't instant and he felt some pain.

I keep my dogs locked and loaded. Nobody going to sneak into my house at any time. I would be more afraid of my own gun being used against me.

Good Job ! For 40 years now Fairfax County VA - one of the largest in the USA has had a policy of prosecuting the homeowner in every instance of home defense. Under one or another statutes they always bring charges and never get a conviction. This is usually a very expensive proposition for the homeowner who defended his property or life. The Police advise shoot to kill - leave no witness - nor anyone maimed. This advice is always off the record. Look into a gun safe for a pistol that opens with a fingerprint reader - opens in seconds and still meets the lock up thy firearm law.

I'm a Massachusetts Liberal Progressive with a house full of guns(Heavily Armed Liberal) some loaded and ready to defend myself and my family and also a permit to carry loaded and concealed..
I do everything legaly and safely in the most restrictive state in the union.
It's not difficult, just right.
My guns are controlled, they should be, they are dangerous, they are killing machines.
I hit what I'm shooting at and practice regularly at a range.
I would never want to hit something I was not shooting at, and I would never want to miss something that needed to be shot.

This poor woman! She sounded terrified and I don't know if she was more scared that she was attacked than that she just shot someone! I had goosebumps listening to her; goodness I hope she'll be ok, I mean how do you feel safe in your home again? I'm glad she had the means to defend herself and I hope she gets counseling because she's gonna be traumatized for awhile.

I don't need a stinking permet to carry a gun-it is my right to carry & if I'm arrested for carring, it will end up in a court battle--franko

Not only do I have a 22 but also a 38 and both are loaded. I am getting me a stun gun to take with me when I go out. I will be safe and not dead. Thank god the women did what she did and I think she needs a medal for it. If all the women would try this and not be a wozzy it might make these crazies stop and think.

better to be judged by twelve than carried by six!

Thank you for saving yourself and others from this man. We have always had guns in our house and our kids were trained from the beginning that they were not toys. Once our neighbor and his brother told my husband that they were coming over to beat him up, because their vicious dog had disappeared and they thought he had killed it.This dog had terrorized our family to the point that we couldn't leave the house to feed our horses. When called, the neighbor wouldn't come get his dog. One of the other neighbors got tired of it trying to attack his children and it disappeared. The cops wouldn't do anything. They told us to shoot the dog. My husband called the Sheriff and they said they didn't have an Deputy to send our way, but they would file a report if something happened. My husband said he wasn't going to take a beating for anyone, but that if they had no one to send that it was no longer an emergency, that if they would not protect us, he would save them the trouble and that they could just send the coroner. Needless to say, the Sherriff was there in 10 minutes and was waiting for the 2 bat wielding idiots when they arrived. Some people live hours from police assistance and they need to protect themselves. The police have no obligation to get to you even if you live right next door to the precinct. If you own a gun, learn to use it and take care of it. Become comfortable with it and don't leave it where the barrel can become fouled with foreign objects.

You play.....you pay.....the scumbag recieved his just dessert for his crime, God bless the female doing what she had to do to survive and to see another beautiful day on this earth.Now you can fully understand why it is law that you have to have a weapon in your home in kennesaw,That was the best law i have seen.I live din kennesaw for 2 yrs and the first week after moving into my new house a male subject under the influence of PCP was terrorizing the neighborhood running around naked , covered with blood from head to toe in the middle of the night luckily myself and a cobb county officer intercided and took this sub down before he could do some serious damage,but imagine in his state of mind what could have happened.I live in orlando fla now and a retired law enforcement officer and it is no better here. But again this had a positive turn out and god bless the lady who thought quickly and truly will make a difference

Here's an injustice that is happening in Oklahoma right now....http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-pharmacist-faces-murder-charge-in-shooting/article/3372941

It's Sunday, and as I am getting ready for church, the facts in this article bother me. Either this woman was really lucky or the devil wanted this man's soul before he repented. What if he knocked her out or led her to living room? Her butt would have been done for then. I hope the police did their job and investigated this to verify all the facts. It's just too clean. How do we know if she decided to seek revenge on a burglar? Where was her husband? He appeared by magic after the act to try to cover her up with a towel. "She" shot the perp nine times or was it her husband? Crime scenes may be staged. Oh, by the way, the cops said that they were looking for other victims, but it was not known to be any at this moment. One way to stop burglars and theft is education and get harsh on the selling of illegal drugs.

To the lady that pulled the trigger, please do not victimize yourself by thinking about killing a person. He lost the right to consideration when he violated your right to be secure in your home. He had a choice.
Further on the subject, “Gun control” should mean that your hand does not shake and scatter bullets around the room. Learn how to use your weapon. Keep the bullets on target and empty the gun into the perp.
Just the presence of the STRANGER in YOUR house should be sufficient to justify defensive action. Whose fault is it anyway if the low life picked the wrong house to victimize. It takes a second to save your life it may take years to go through the legal process of explaining why you had to take the law in your hands. Of course we should think about the low life that tried to violate your rights. Any such law suits by the victims relatives should be barred. Criminals should understand it is criminal to violate another's person and premises. If they do, they are subject to death at the hands of the law abiding resident of the house the criminal attempted to violate. People should not be defenseless in their own homes. If criminals think that EVERY HOUSE might have an ARMED, TRAINED OCCUPANT, the criminals might choose another lifestyle. EDUCATE children at the root. They will not grow up to be criminals. Entitlement is not the answer. Teach children to be responsible and to EARN THEIR REWARDS. The "reward" for violating a woman against her will is death!

My hat is off to you. I have this feeling you are a good woman, a woman any man would be proud to be with, any child proud to have as a parent, any community proud to have a a member. As such I believe I'll only make two suggestions: You actually don't need a bigger gun, just hotter ammo. Buy twenty-two magnum, hollow points--that'll "get er dun" and do something for him he wouldn't have done for you. Pray for his eternal soul. You did what you had to do. Now it's up to Our Loving God to sort out the one's He wishes to keep from those He doesn't. He should thank you for the free ticket home. And, you sent him "first class". That's better then INS would've done either in hie previous journey's or future one's--of which, for him, they're will be none. Further, in our time of conserving fuel, look it as doing your part in not having to ship another busload home. I know, they didn't say he was an illegal. But in our liberal news media, you can rest assurred if he wasn't, that's would have been all over the front pages as a sale call by an unemployed gardner goes awray.
Thought for the day.... Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant'
is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'

Good for her. Support the 2nd Amendment.
Vote out anyone that wants to end our 2nd Amendment rights.

If you are going to keep a gun for self-defense, learn gun safety, (2 year old shot himself to death in Ashland, KY today's paper), be completely familiar with its operation and find a place to practice with it. Shoot it as often as you can. If you have a concealed carry permit, give careful thought as to the best and safest way to carry it and practice getting it into action quickly (practice with it unloaded). And once again know everything there is to know about safe gun storage, handling and shooting.

The only thing this woman did wrong was she purchased too small a caliber weapon. A .22 takes too many rounds to bring down an attacker. I suspect she'll now get a bigger handgun. Even a 9mm is far superior to a .22.

Good job lady!

Good job, lady. This is why every law-obedient citizen should have a gun at home. To protect the innocent.

I'd like to see more would be rapists meet the same fate.

Great argument for those who think keeping a LOADED handgun in the house is dangerous. Kudos to this woman for keeping her calm enough to get to her handgun and defy her own death. Criminals aren't going to wait for you to load your weapon.

It's good she lives in Duluth. New York,Maryland, and New Jersey take extraordinary measures to deny their citizens the right to self defense.

he certainly prevented this evil incarnate from perpetrating more crimes

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
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Below is a story about an unarmed woman….
Yvette Beakes, a Glen Burnie resident, was abducted and murdered in 2001. A witness to the abduction called 911, but miscommunication by the County call center resulted in the information never making its way to police. The County’s defense? “As harsh as it may be, the Constitution simply doesn’t impose on government a duty to provide any sort of minimal service to its citizens,” offered Assistant County Attorney Andrew J. Murray. That’s right, according to the County, a police officer witnessing a crime in progress has no obligation to assist a victim unless s/he has actually agreed to help.

Quo warranto, B.O.?